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Monday, April 18, 2016

4/19 Oracle/ITA Ranking Projections

Virginia stays at No. 1 after a big win on Friday over Wake Forest while UCLA surges up to No. 2 after its road win at USC.  North Carolina comes up to No. 3 after squeezing past Georgia Tech, TCU drops two spots down to No. 4 despite winning at Texas, and Ohio State drops two spots to No. 5 despite road wins over Minnesota and Wisconsin.

There were some teams that improved their chances of qualifying for the NCAAs while there were others that really hurt themselves with some untimely losses. It's also going to be a battle to see who finishes in the top 16 and thus gets to host a NCAA regional.

Weekend Winners:
Vanderbilt - some clutch, clutch play from the Commodores who won on the road at Mississippi State and Alabama
Oregon - picked up a big road win at Washington
Oklahoma State - was in danger of falling out of the top 16 but wins over Texas Tech and Baylor all but nailed down a host spot for the Cowboys
Notre Dame - won on the road and now its chances of getting an at-large are looking much better

Weekend Losers:
Arkansas - was in prime position to host a NCAA regional but a stunning loss at home knocked them all the way down to #18
NC State - lost at home to Notre Dame in a match that it really needed - still in contention for an at-large but will need to win at least one if not two matches at the ACC Tournament.
Wisconsin - lost at home to Penn State in a match that the Badgers really needed - will have to pull off an upset to have a reasonable chance of moving back up
Washington - had a chance to lock up an at-large spot but lost at home to Oregon - still would be in as of today but now nearing the bubble.
Alabama - had a chance to lock up an at-large spot but lost at home to Vanderbilt - firmly on the bubble now
Tulane - lost a tough one at Rice which means it'll be a No. 4 seed in the conference tournament - Tulane was a long shot to get into the top 16 but now it'll have to navigate these matches to win the conference tournament - Memphis (host), South Florida, SMU/Tulsa.

Neutral:
Penn State - picked up a nice road win at Wisconsin but then fell flat on its face and got stunned at Minnesota - as of this minute they'd still be in the field.

In the past the NCAA at-large cutoff has been right around 42 so for those teams in that 36-46 range they need to keep winning plus they have to hope there are no upsets in a few conference tournaments. Bubble teams will be rooting for San Diego to win the WCC, Rice to win the CUSA, and USF/Tulsa/SMU/Tulane to win the AAC. If one of those teams doesn't win the conference tournament then another at-large spot will probably be out the window which would lower the cut-off.

This set of rankings used each team's nine best wins as will all the subsequent rankings up until the selection of the NCAA field on May 3.  Each of the teams in the projected top 20 had all nine countable wins over ranked opponents. Schools that have an * beside the school name have less than nine ranked wins so I had to do some guesswork on where the unranked wins fall in the rankings.

LSU and Vanderbilt had the same round point totals but when taking further out LSU had the slight edge - same for Alabama and Baylor.

There are still some teams that haven't keyed in results from the weekend so I'm assuming they will - otherwise these numbers could change - nudge to Illinois and Texas A&M.
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Cal stays at No. 1 but its gap has shrunk from 7.53 to 3.59 after losing to Stanford on Saturday. North Carolina stays at No. 2, Florida moves up to No. 3 after winning on the road at Georgia, Georgia falls one spot to No. 4, Vanderbilt moves up one spot to No. 5, and Ohio State falls one spot to No. 6. The only other changed in the top 10 was Pepperdine and Michigan swapping spots at No. 9 and No. 10.

Weekend Winners:
Stanford - win over No. 1 California all but locked up a spot in the top 16 which means the Cardinal will host a NCAA regional
Oklahoma State - wins over Texas Tech and TCU should be enough to keep them in the top 16
Georgia Tech - big win over Duke pushed the Jackets up another spot and put them that much closer to hosting a regional
USC - beat rival UCLA plus they'll have a chance to win the Pac-12 win they play Stanford on Wednesday in Ojai. A win over Stanford might be enough to push the Trojans into the top 16.
Princeton - wins over Cornell and Columbia pushed the Tigers from No. 50 to inside the top 40 which puts them in good shape to get in as an at-large

Weekend Losers:
Texas Tech - loss to Oklahoma State and fell three spots to No. 17. Red Raiders only have one win over a top 25 opponent so to move back up they'll need to beat someone of substance.
Oregon - losses to Long Beach State and Loyola Marymount will likely end the season for the Ducks - were sitting at No. 44 but will drop to around No. 54.

There were some home/road keying errors that are being corrected and I noticed that the UNC women still haven't keyed in its win over Clemson - would slightly effect points total but not positioning.



4/19/16 Men's Ranking Projections

RankSchoolPointsPrevious
1Virginia74.161
2UCLA70.574
3North Carolina69.965
4TCU69.442
5Ohio State66.533
6Georgia65.826
7Wake Forest59.027
8USC54.539
9Texas Tech53.8910
10Oklahoma52.318
11Florida51.8813
12Oklahoma State51.6514
13Texas A&M 48.8311
14Northwestern47.9415
15California46.4516
16Illinois46.0017
17South Florida 43.4519
18Arkansas42.7412
19Texas40.6618
20Kentucky39.6920
21Florida State36.5622
22Michigan33.8221
23Tulsa*33.5424
24Columbia*32.2025
25Mississippi State*31.7923
26Rice*30.0026
27SMU*28.4827
28San Diego26.6531
29Ole Miss*26.1532
30Georgia Tech*25.5430
31Tulane*25.5028
32Stanford*25.0629
33LSU*23.2633
34Vanderbilt*23.2645
35Oregon22.9141
36Virginia Tech*21.7740
37Washington*20.9535
38Penn State*20.6539
39Dartmouth*20.4536
40Notre Dame*20.2443
41Memphis*20.2338
42Alabama*20.1634
43Baylor*20.1637
44NC State*17.8642
45Old Dominion*16.9144
46Drake*15.6649
47UC Santa Barbara*15.3350
48Princeton*14.7146
49Denver*14.5351
50Harvard*14.4448
51South Carolina*14.3658
52Cornell*14.3055
53Wisconsin*13.3647
54Lamar*12.1954
55East Tennessee State*11.6152

* indicates at least one win over an opponent ranked outside the top 75


Rankings Chart That Excludes All Losses

RankSchool9 Best Wins
1North Carolina734.60
2Virginia711.90
3TCU659.70
4UCLA649.20
5Wake Forest631.50
6Ohio State618.70
7Georgia618.70
8USC556.20
9Oklahoma State552.70
10Texas Tech549.70



4/19/16 Women's Ranking Projections

RankSchoolPointsPrevious
1Cal74.261
2North Carolina71.772
3Florida70.784
4Georgia68.883
5Vanderbilt66.856
6Ohio State65.255
7Miami60.197
8Duke53.078
9Pepperdine*52.3410
10Michigan*51.619
11South Carolina49.2911
12Auburn46.5112
13Stanford44.7617
14Oklahoma State44.3015
15Georgia Tech42.5216
16Virginia41.8313
17Texas Tech39.8914
18Texas A&M38.7419
19USC38.1121
20LSU36.7118
21Mississippi State34.7924
22Arizona State33.2522
23Kentucky33.2220
24Texas*31.1725
25UCLA29.3223
26Wichita State*26.9626
27Syracuse*26.6332
28Wake Forest*26.2527
29Clemson*25.1228
30Tulsa*24.3831
31Virginia Tech*23.0430
32Arkansas*22.7029
33TCU*21.6533
34Kansas*21.2435
35NC State*21.0438
36William & Mary*20.4036
37Columbia19.5634
38Princeton19.0450
39Northwestern*17.8440
40Fresno State*16.8337
41Baylor*15.9045
42Ole Miss*15.7747
43Denver*15.0339
44Florida International*14.9843
45Rice*14.7341
46Georgia State*13.8442
47Notre Dame*13.7851
48Penn*13.1052
49Dartmouth*12.6754
50Long Beach State*12.5666
51South Alabama*12.3746
52Washington*11.9255
53Utah*11.7949
54Oregon*11.6844
55Illinois*11.6348

* indicates at least one win over an opponent ranked outside the top 75

RankSchool9 Best Wins
1Cal698.00
2Florida672.40
3North Carolina667.50
4Georgia647.50
5Vanderbilt641.80
6Ohio State606.80
7Miami589.90
8South Carolina561.90
9Duke557.20
10Michigan*516.10

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

are any teams in the top 40 in danger of missing because of the .500 record thing?

Anonymous said...

2nd sentence should be "TCU drops two spots down to No. 4"

Bobby said...

No - all that in the top 50 are good.

Anonymous said...

Is there anyone outside the top 20ish you think could host if they were to win their conference tournament?

Anonymous said...

You had Cal at 15 but they came in at 16 this week, whats the discrepancy?

Bobby said...

Last week Cal incorrectly got a road bonus for a home win over Washington - I let the ITA know and they fixed it for this week - but I forgot to fix my sheet so that was the difference. Normally I wouldn't have changed my sheet but I was trying to figure out where the variance was last week and I forgot to switch it back.

Bobby said...

Not really anyone below 20 - I think if South Florida wins the AAC they might move up enough and same for Texas and Arkansas though both Arky and Texas are long shots

Unknown said...

OSU women beat Vandy twice and end up ranked behind them. That's not just weird that indicates a real problem with the system being used to "create," the rankings. I guess no penalty for losing.

Unknown said...

Doesn't anyone see that allowing the top sixteen teams to "host" the first two rounds is a strange way to run a "tournament." Next year Georgia could play EVERY ROUND of the tournament on their home courts. Imagine the uproar if something like that was even proposed for the basketball tournament. When if ever will the ITA fix that problem?

Anonymous said...

how are you going to get fans at neutral environments in the 1st 2 rounds? Having them at host sites guarantees good crowds. Plus its a reward for having a good season.

Bobby said...

The NCAA selection committee make adjustments in situation like that and they would move Ohio State ahead of Vandy if they were still ranked in the same order after the final rankings.

Bobby said...

Outside of D1 men's basketball most other sports including D1 women's basketball play the early rounds on the campuses of the higher ranked schools - I'm not sure if they go strictly off rankings or geography. I know college baseball has the top 8 host regionals and super-regionals. Playing at neutral sites may be more fair but the crowds would be minuscule and that'd take away from the student-athlete experience - ITA/NCAA buzzword.

I'd be very surprised if college tennis didn't mirror the college baseball format in the next 3-4 years (if not sooner). There is a big push to get the quarters/semis/finals on a weekend and the best way to do so would be to play the first three rounds on campus and then have the final 8 at one site.

Anonymous said...

Earning the right to host is a big part of American sports. Beyond the college examples listed how about the NFL, NBA, MLB, MSL. Teams are rewarded for great regular seasons.

Anonymous said...

Bowl games Bobby

Anonymous said...

Who wants to play a bowl game in front of 3 people?

Unknown said...

Thank you Bobby for noting that both you and the NCAA committees recognize that the rankings are sometimes flawed, such as the current ranking with the OSU women behind Vandy despite their two wins over Vandy. Maybe the NCAA should reexamine how they make their rankings instead of holding a committe when obvious flaws show up. Varied teams with many various records make precise delineations problematic, eg NC beats Virginia twice then loses to Notre Dame sitting out their top player. If it is apparent that there are flaws in the rankings then how clear is the line between teams 13-16 who with the present format "host" the first two rounds, and teams 17-20 who have to play on the road. The ranking system itself recognizes that home field is a significant advantage by awarding extra points when teams win on the road. Everybody knows that home courts are a HUGE advantage in college tennis.

The day the NCAA tennis tournament starts there will be 512 chair umpires sitting up in chairs trying to ensure Fairness during 64 men's and women's matches, in two tournaments with very skewed formats that favor the teams that were able to finish ranked in the top 16. How does a team in an average conference that has a great year ever have a chance?

It wouldn't be hard to play arrange team matches at neutral sites or to allow the lowest seed the right to host the first two rounds instead of the top seed as it is done now. A tournament is supposed to create a level playing field so that the cream can rise. A True Champion would never covet an unfair advantage.

The playoffs of all pro sports tries to neutralize the advantage of home field, the Super Bowl and college bowl games are played at neutral sites. NCAA tennis could improve their format very simply.

Thanks very much for providing a forum for open discussion.

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